Star Trek IV Reaanounced…Again

Star Trek IV Reaanounced…Again

This is…what the fourth time now?

So, yeah. The fourth of the Bad Reboot associated Star Trek movies has been announced yet again.

From Deadline:

After orchestrating the Marvel/Disney+ series WandaVision to a 23- Emmy-nomination haul, Matt Shakman (Oh god, please no) has made a deal to direct the next untitled Star Trek film for Paramount and Bad Robot’s JJ Abrams.

Deadline hears the film will now move at warp speed (*GAG*) and begin production next spring. They have a script by Lindsey Beer and Geneva Robertson-Dworet. This is significant in that it is the first Star Trek film to be written by female screenwriters. Recent attempts at scripting Trek films were done by The Revenant‘s Mark L. Smith (for Quentin Tarantino) and another by Noah Hawley.”

I was really impressed by Lindsey Beer’s IMDB page, it consists entirely of projects that are either announced or in pre-production and only one thing that has actually been produced. She has 12 projects she has been signed for but hasn’t written yet. They are all kid’s shows.

Star Trek 4 first died after Star Trek Beyond (2016) only broke even at the box office. Bad Reboot tried to talk Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth into working for less money. They said, no.

It has been repeatedly announced ever since then. They invariably fall apart.

The biggest problem Star Trek as a franchise has is that ridiculous contract Les Moonves signed with Secret Hideout. From the Arkhaven Blog:

Les Moonves had a great relationship with Abrams and there was still blood in that aforementioned stone. While Moonves hates science fiction he loves money. So Bad Robot’s retarded little brother, Secret Hideout was given an ironclad production license which would last five years. Then Moonves got #MeTooed out of Hollywood.

Since it was owned directly by Viacom, Star Trek: Discovery would be (allegedly) canon. But since Bad Robot is a major stakeholder in Secret Hideout they are bound by Bad Robot’s original contract which requires any Star Trek they produce to be legally distinct (the number that gets floated around is “25% percent different”).  This by the way is the real reason that C-3PO had a red arm in the Force Awakens.  It made his action figures from that movie 25% different.

Now it pains me to be fair to Secret Hideout but I will grant this much. Original Star Trek was made in 1967-69. Each planet the Enterprise visited was so different from the next it was nearly an anthology series. The costumes are just plain silly by modern standards and can’t really be used today. The sets have the same problem.  Besides, hard overhead lighting isn’t done anymore.

Fine. Changes needed to be made but dear god in heaven, it didn’t have to be made into something unwatchably bad. 

Kurtzman doesn’t get Star Trek and he never will. Alex Kurtzman isn’t creative at all, he’s just a Hollywood politician. He’s been protected since his days on Hercules, and he’s failed upward ever since.  While he doesn’t remotely understand Star Trek, he definitely understands Hollywood politics.  The further Left he takes Star Trek, the more protected he is within the industry.

Bottomline, Secret Hideout’s Star Trek is a disaster and has significantly devalued the brand.

Recently, CBS/Viacom and Paramount were merged back together, and this actually made the situation with Star Trek worse.

Because of the terms of Secret Hideout’s license, Secret Hideout is now in charge of ALL Star Trek theatrical movies as well as the TV shows. The problem is that they can’t be trusted with any of them. 

None of Kurtzman’s Star Trek projects, with the exception of a couple of cartoons, are getting any funding from Paramount/Viacom, and the outside sources have learned their lesson, there will be no more money coming from Amazon or Netflix. And Paramount can’t move forward with any Star Trek film projects without Kurtzman’s involvement.

This isn’t quite a stalemate because according to reasonably reliable sources, Secret Hideout and Bad Robot get paid millions in license fees from Paramount/Viacom even if the only thing they bring to the party is sitting on their butts for the next three years. And breaking the contract will result in a nine figure penalty fee paid by Paramount to Secret Hideout. Now all of this stuff is standard industry practice and no one would care in the least if Kurtzman was capable of producing a Star Trek that Star Trek fans like. But he can’t do that. It’s just beyond him.

In normal times, Paramount would just sit out the contract, pay the license fees and flip Kurtzman and company the bird in three years. 

But these are the End-Times.

Any entertainment company that depends on theatrical exhibition for their films is in financial agony right now. It’s not just Disney. All of the studios are hurting and may never recover (one hopes). Right now any asset that is not making money is a liability.

Consequently, Bad Robot can get away with an announcement without Paramount’s approval ahead of time. Abrams is too busy destroying what’s left of DC to worry about destroying what’s left of Star Trek himself, so he’s farming it out to WandaVision’s showrunner because everyone is pretending that WandaVision made a packet for Disney and it didn’t.

A couple of flavors of the month are signed as the WOMEN writers of this all too masculine franchise.

This whole thing smells like a funding pitch. And I hope that’s all it will be because if by some dark miracle it actually gets made then Kirk is going spend ninety minutes internalizing his misogyny and apologizing for it while Captain Uhura commands the Enterprise to victory over the patriarchy.

Yeah, it’s gonna suck.

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  • jorgen b Reply

    What made Star Trek work was no other space show had been made that was better. Then came lots of space shows. What does Star Trek have to recommend itself now? It also doesn’t help the suspension of disbelief that NASA hasn’t been able to go to the moon for 40 years despite claiming they went in the 60s. Star Trek needs the delusion that the moon landing was real and space exploration is increasing in order to thrive; but we see that space exploration is just cgi now.

    That said, I stumbled upon the frist 2 seasons of Babylon 5 at a pawn shop for cheap and am watching through season 1 now. Interestingly the plot is that the commander of the station is an Antiracist who hates Human Supremacists. But then there is also the hint that perhaps the aliens brainwashed him. It’ll be interesting to see if his antiracism against Human Supremacists is because the aliens are controlling him. I hope it turns out that way, as a warning from the 90s against antiracism and not as antiracist propaganda.

    July 16, 2021 at 10:52 pm
    • douglas Whiddon Reply

      Babylon 5 is a great show. But, It’s almost 30 years old and doesn’t really deal with any “woke” shit. Pro or anti. Every character is a flawed being who has a real arc.

      July 17, 2021 at 1:12 am
    • Zeedub85 Reply

      “Then came lots of space shows.”

      I don’t know about “lots,” but there were things like Space:1999, Battlestar Galactica and its sequel, Galactica:1980. Buck Rogers was pretty good, especially the first season. I actually liked all of these, but I was 13 in 1980. Well, ok, even I knew Galactica:1980 sucked. But none of these were really better than Star Trek. Actually Galactica and Buck Rogers were trying to cash in on the Star Wars craze and not really trying to do Star Trek better. I’d argue that none of the follow up Star Trek series really did better either, other than the technical side. Except Deep Space 9, which of course was just copying Babylon 5. What we did get, after 1977, were lots of space movies. Which included the best of the cinematic Treks, and also the worst.

      I admit that my main enjoyment of the original Star Trek now is watching actors chew scenery.

      July 17, 2021 at 9:49 pm
      • jorgen b Reply

        I’m counting Andromeda with Kevin Sorbo and both Stargate series too. And Dark Matter, with a strong Asian whaman captain. And Firefly. And lots I can’t remember at the moment. There have been lots of space shows.

        July 21, 2021 at 1:52 am
    • WOPR Reply

      Star Trek came before the moon landing. The follow on series were well after NASA had given up returning to the moon. Really, the coy hints that we didn’t go to the moon are tiresome and ridiculous.

      I don’t know why you believe any sci-fi show on TV is going to be non-Left. Just stop watching B5 now because you are going to be disappointed.

      July 19, 2021 at 2:12 am
      • Moonglum Reply

        B5 is written from a left-wing perspective but it is well worth watching nonetheless.

        July 19, 2021 at 4:02 pm
        • WOPR Reply

          I agree. The fact the JMS is an atheist and actually treats religion and its adherents respectfully is one very good aspect of the show.

          July 19, 2021 at 9:33 pm
      • jorgen b Reply

        But I already bought 2 seasons at $5 each so I have to get my money’s worth on B5.

        July 21, 2021 at 1:53 am
  • furor kek tonicus Reply

    This is…what the forth time now?
    .
    So, yeah. The forth”

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    thou shalt go forth and employ a “u”.
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    it was nearly an anthology series.”
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    in what way was it not? didn’t Kirk and Bones and Spock and Sulu and Chekov and Uhura and Scotty all finish TOS the same way they started? nothing ever even came of the SECOND inter-racial kiss ( Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz were kissing each other over a decade before Kirk and Uhura ) in tv history.

    July 16, 2021 at 11:59 pm
    • douglas Whiddon Reply

      Hispanics are white when convenient to the narrative. But, remember that up until the year before it was a crime in the US for a black and white to marry. “interracial” really only meant white and black. And, even if we count every Lucy-desi kiss as 1, then kirk-uhura wouldn’t be 2nd, it wouldn’t even be Star Treks first. Ricardo Montalbán kissed a girl on Star Trek in season 1.

      July 17, 2021 at 1:30 am
    • furor kek tonicus Reply

      if Hispanics are “White when convenient”, then opposition to illegal immigration is racism against White immigration.

      then kirk-uhura wouldn’t be 2nd

      it’s all about the Rhetoric. just as Star Wars had NO POWERFUL WHAMEN before The Force Awakens ( being especially careful not to think about Leia and the way she acted in Ep4 or the female generals in Ep6 ), the only thing the Wokesters care about is being THE FIRST! for entirely Narcissistic and Rhetorical “reasons”.

      in that vein, then Kahn+nameless hot chick would only be 2nd as a specific pairing. Lucy and Ricky having kissed each other hundreds of times on her show. i would suspect that there was some White on Hispanic action in some of the various Western shows.

      July 18, 2021 at 3:30 pm
      • Chris Lopes Reply

        The nameless hot chick was Madelyn Rhue. She also played Montalban’s wife in an episode of Bonanza, where they both played (native American) indians.

        July 18, 2021 at 8:07 pm
  • Robert W Reply

    JJ Abrams ruins everything.

    How I ever got suckered into thinking he was quality after Super8 (that’s a good ReView option) will bewilder me.

    July 17, 2021 at 4:27 am
    • MrUNIVC Reply

      The only project of his that I unreservedly like is Cloverfield. He’s only credited as a producer there, so who knows how much he’s responsible for it. But it’s a tight little kaiju thriller even if the premise of the guy holding the camera and getting in people’s faces the whole time is ridiculous, as hilariously skewered by South Park in the “Pandemic” episodes.

      One commenter on another site I like had the best characterization of Abrams I’ve ever seen – he’s the Hollywood equivalent of Lyle Lanley, the monorail salesman from the Simpsons. He’ll give you what you think you want and then run off to another franchise before the structural flaws become apparent.

      July 18, 2021 at 3:03 pm
  • Adam Bruneau Reply

    Star Trek as a thing seems like it just wouldn’t work at all in these times. “The Prime Directive” is pretty much the opposite of the Social Justice cult’s demands that all perceived injustice be intervened against and everything in the universe be flattened into the great equity.

    July 17, 2021 at 12:55 pm
    • Wazdaka Reply

      Yeah, you might have a point.
      Even the utopian federation wouldn’t meet the equity standards set by the lunatics.

      July 17, 2021 at 6:11 pm
    • furor kek tonicus Reply

      let’s be honest here, Kirk’s observance of The Primary Directive was in his flagrant violation of it the majority of times it came into play. and he was usually doing it to right some “perceived injustice”

      it’s just that what Kirk ( Scots for Church ) threw temper tantrums about hewed much closer to normal Christian ethical standards than modern LGBTQWERTY pro-pedo buffoonery.

      July 18, 2021 at 3:20 pm
      • Vizzini Reply

        Try to keep in mind that Kirk only seems manly and reactionary by current standards. For his day he was a proto-SJW.

        July 19, 2021 at 12:04 am
        • WOPR Reply

          I’ll disagree with you there. Inside the bounds of the show that had man reaching some sort of utopia, Kirk really wasn’t an SJW. The last episode had him saying that women weren’t capable of being starship captains.

          July 19, 2021 at 2:15 am
          • Moonglum

            I recall the novelization of Star Trek the motion picture from 1979 striving to explain this by saying that Star Fleet personnel tended to be more conservative (or old-fashioned) in their attitudes and habits than the baseline human population of the Earth. Perhaps Kirk et al joined up in order to escape the appalling hedonistic super liberals at home (even in Iowa). Conservative Americans like to claim that the privations and hardships of frontier living shaped them as a people.

            McCoy when re-instated from the reserves had been living in a kind of free-love commune!

            July 19, 2021 at 3:54 pm
          • WOPR

            Moonglum, I remember something like that. They also chose for non-supersmart people. The super geniuses got sucked into whatever alien cultures than ran into. I always found that concept intriguing.

            July 20, 2021 at 2:08 pm
  • Chris Lopes Reply

    I’m not sure why they’re bothering. There can’t be THAT many old school Trek fans (like me) who still think Star Trek is a thing. Discovery has been a disaster, Picard was confusing, and the last Nu Trek movie was weak. No one but an oldster like me is even paying attention.

    July 17, 2021 at 6:14 pm
    • WOPR Reply

      I think you’re right. The main fanbase is pretty gray now. A decade ago they might have had a chance to get a younger audience. But, I don’t know if there is an audience for Trek today. Not with the thinking of most of a younger generation.

      July 19, 2021 at 2:17 am

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