I’ll Believe It When I See It

I’ll Believe It When I See It

That said, there is more than just gossip that Kray-Kray Kay-Kay’s reign of destruction at LucasFilm has ended.

Frankly, I’ve heard these rumors so many times that my reflexive reaction is dismissal as more fanboy wishful thinking.

However, these rumors have come on the heels of several events in a sequence.  

First, the firing and canceling of Gina Carano blew up in Disney and Lucasfilm’s face.  

The second event was the stockholder call-in, where instead of getting asked if the Adventurer’s Club will ever open again (sadly, never) or if DoleWhip will be available at Walmart (Hell, no) he was getting roasted over Gina Carano’s firing and Disney’s obvious political double standards. 

Third, there was what had every sign of being a commissioned hit-piece in Forbes magazine.  Both the Mom-and-Pop stockholders and the institutional investors were telling Bob Chapek to unfuck this situation.

Fourth, was a rapid escalation against the “Fandom Menace” YouTube critics. There was a piece on the Rewriting Ripley podcast that claimed with perfect conviction that if you hated the third Star Wars Trilogy you were an Alt Right Nazi. Given how many liberals were on that list I found it hilarious.  Social media started actively suppressing these channels.  Although, it was interesting to note that Red Letter Media was left off the list and uber-Gamma Jack Packard came out in favor of these claims.  Regardless this was clearly a general retaliation by LucasFilm.  It was so out of the blue and over the top that it smelled like panic.

The fifth event was where things got kind of interesting.  LucasFilm’s entire social media presence went completely radio silent across all of their accounts two weeks ago.  Nothing was getting updated.  That did feel significant.

Sixth was an apparent response to the Reddit post from Bad Reboot saying Disney should release the four-hour JJ Cut (wow, four hours. Just exactly like the Snyder Cut.  What are the odds?).  The response on Reddit was a “leak” from LucasFilm claiming that there had never been any kind of serious disagreement between Queen Kathleen and Jon Favreau.  As much as a knee slapper as that one was, the follow-on was the real howler.  That Kray-Kray Kay-Kay would be delighted to have Jon take over for her when she moves on or is promoted. 

It was shortly after that, that the rumors started drifting out of Fort Mickey to the effect of; even the most glorious reign must end someday and that Kathleen Kennedy’s time had come.

And there is a flipside indicating it’s not true.  Indiana Jones 5 is moving and looks like it’s at “the train is leaving the station” point of no return.  Kathleen Kennedy is contractually tied to that film, there is no real way to remove her from it. 

There is also a flipside to the flipside.  She wouldn’t agree to go quietly without trying to get some kind of deal and Indiana Jones 5 could be part of it.  It will be a failure but I’m sure she doesn’t know that. 

 The Fandom Menace media sources are being appropriately cautious about these rumors. And so am I. We have definitely heard this one before.

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  • Seeker Reply

    At a certain point, will it even matter? From what we’ve seen, most of the people left there are of a similar mindset to her. Even the people leading the technical teams seem nuts. Regardless, I don’t think anyone will be able to look back at Star Wars in the same way they did before disney took it over. No matter what they do to fix the canon (multiversing it, time travel, retcons, etc.), none of that takes away from the years of bad treatment of fans and the brand being a battleground. SW went from a moderately countercultural brand to one that is ever more firmly linked to a declining culture.

    Btw, I also think its worth pointing out the Favreau is a Clinton Foundation donor. That really calls into question any rumors of internal civil wars.

    April 19, 2021 at 4:01 am
    • EXALT Reply

      “Btw, I also think its worth pointing out the Favreau is a Clinton Foundation donor. That really calls into question any rumors of internal civil wars.”
      1)SJWs fight among themselves all the time.
      2)Nobody is saying that Favreau (or Filoni) is a secret right-wing agent – The Mandalorian’s Season 2 finale had three separate Strong Female Characters in it, for crying out loud – but he does have some basic understanding of the “we need to appeal to the fans at least a bit” concept; KK lacks that.

      April 19, 2021 at 2:28 pm
  • Ivan Poland Reply

    This renewed my supply of Hopium. Doomcock had an interesting video on this and reached the same conclusion you did.

    April 19, 2021 at 4:36 am
  • Kyle Reply

    What would be the appropriate length of time for sequels in your opinion? The last Indiana Jones movie was back in what, 2008? If they were going to do an indy 5 it would have been done already. It seems that the further out sequels get the worse they become.

    Another sequel that gets me is space jam 2. Why try to revive s movie idea that came out back in the mid 90s? Is Hollywood that badly desperate for ideas that the will dig up the corpses of one off movies long past their prime?

    What’s next, a sequel to MASH except set during the gulf war or something?

    April 19, 2021 at 5:33 am
    • Seeker Reply

      – How long does a movie last in popular consciousness? Typically a few years if it is a hit. Even a major hit series like Star Wars went into decline in the 90’s about 7 years after The Return of the Jedi. So, you have 3-5 years for public excitement, a bit longer for fan hype.

      – If your main characters are old enough to no longer be recognizable or you have to outright replace most of the cast/directors/writers, it’s too far out. The last Indy movie was already unnecessary, and this latest announcement is definitely just an attempt to keep using the brand for nostalgia.

      – Yes, Hollywood is desperate. They have managed to bloat budgets to the point of absurdity, thus falling back on sequels and brand recognition (aka geek nostalgia). Not to mention that the theaters being down in everywhere major, except china, is also strangling them (streaming isn’t actually consistently profitable, it turns out). Also remember that most good writers/directors have been replaced or gelded by political hires, nepotism, and yes men, all of whom value their diversity checklists and propaganda over a good story. With a bunch like that, established characters and settings are their only hope of putting together a story that also gets viewers.

      April 19, 2021 at 8:51 am
  • furor kek tonicus Reply

    Cataline
    Frankly, I’ve heard these rumors so many times that my reflexive reaction is dismissal as more fanboy wishful thinking.

    .
    exactly what i said when Doomcock published ( for the 6 millionth time ) the most recent rumors that the wicked witch was dead.
    .
    SHOW ME Kathleen’s head on a stake and i’ll consider the possibility that she’s dead.

    April 19, 2021 at 5:39 am
  • furor kek tonicus Reply

    Seeker Reply
    Btw, I also think its worth pointing out the Favreau ((( had a bar mitzvah ))).
    .
    t,ftfy

    April 19, 2021 at 5:44 am
  • Marielle Redclaw Reply

    People should just start making their own underground versions of these franchises. Books, comics, short films, whatever they have the resources or talent to do. Just keep it anonymous and send crates of manure to any lawyers that try to go after anyone.

    April 19, 2021 at 5:52 am
    • Seeker Reply

      It’s better just to make your own stuff. Brand identity is tied to corporatism which is already in decline. Some great stuff that has been done over the years with Marvel, Star Wars, DC, Star Trek, etc. However, the truth is that most of the stories in those brands are easy to surpass/forgettable. With Star Wars, for example, a talented writer can produce better work than any of the movies/tv shows, with the exception of a New Hope and the Empire Strikes Back. A lot of EU content did that. Looking at the fate of so much good material in corporate franchises, you will understand why its best not to tie yourself to them. Everything has a built in expiration date and can be destroyed easily by an untalented writer who follows you.

      So, while you can take inspiration from these franchises, you should own your content rather than putting in hard work for corporate characters. Besides, enough has already been done with these brands. What else of value can we see with Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Star Trek, Star Wars, etc. Everything valuable has already been explored. There might be value in doing adaptations of good stories to another medium, but corporations can no longer be relied upon to produce faithful adaptations.

      April 19, 2021 at 8:23 am
    • MrUNIVAC Reply

      What you describe exists already for Star Wars, and it’s called Galaxy’s Edge – not to be confused with the Disney park, although according to one of the authors Disney stole their name to mess with them (see here: https://disneystarwarsisdumb.wordpress.com/2019/07/25/did-galaxys-edge-steal-its-title-from-sci-fi-novels/).

      They’re fun books, but I’m getting frustrated because they’ve been pumping out nothing but spinoffs to the main story for going on 3 years now after realizing they had a big hit on their hands. They’re consistently good though, so it doesn’t bug me as much as it should. The one exception is Karen Traviss’s book, which I’m guessing Nick and Jason didn’t have enough time to properly dig into since it unnecessarily retcons a lot of the backstory for the worse.

      The latest book is coming out on Star Wars day, appropriately.

      April 19, 2021 at 1:15 pm
    • Codex Reply

      Done and dusted.

      God bless Silver empire, Castalia, Goldport, Arkhaven, SSSS, and every brave soul hoisting the flag of Christendom.

      Now go you and only spend your entertainment dollars on ’em.

      April 21, 2021 at 10:24 am
  • Star Tripper Reply

    If Kay Kay goes I anticipate it being a “kicked upstairs” kind of thing. Having been Spielberg’s assistant means she knows stuff that others don’t want released.

    April 19, 2021 at 12:18 pm
    • Scott A.H. Ruggels Reply

      One YouTube commenter surmised that Kennedy has the goods on several executives obtained from a certain private island run by a guy who did not kill himself.

      April 19, 2021 at 6:53 pm
    • Chief_Tuscaloosa Reply

      How can she not eventually end up CEO? Misogyny if she doesn’t get it.

      For those of us wanting Mickey the Great and Terrible to go up in a 100 megaton bonfire of money, may KK reign forever. DIS can’t be converted to wholesome Christian family entertainment at this point, so I hope she stays until the end.

      April 20, 2021 at 1:45 am
  • Dane Reply

    As if Kray-Kray is the problem… typical Consoomer Copium projection when we all know that the big Banker shareholders is in total control.

    April 21, 2021 at 8:05 am

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