Friday Night Open Thread

Friday Night Open Thread

Post what you want but…

Rule 1: It has to be related to pop culture.

Rule 2: Rule 1 is pretty much it, I’ll nuke any post that doesn’t conform to it.

UPDATE:

Flash! The new trailer for the Star Wars hotel has been STRUCK!

And it was Disney that nuked it. A Disney pixie-duster influencer of my acquaintance had been trying to get an early reservation to do a review. And she wasn’t able to secure one. None of her connections had worked. None of them came through. She couldn’t get in at all…at first. But after this trailer dropped she was able to get a pretty early boat space. That means that this trailer has resulted in cancelations.

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  • The Dark Herald Reply

    Bob Iger has finally (effectively) left Disney. And his replacement as chairman of the BOD is Susan Arnold.
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    After reading her bio, I am now quite certain she was the one who led the boardroom revolt that brought down Bob Iger in February of 2020. She’s the one, that selected Bob Chapek to be the new CEO.
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    I suspect she set her plan in motion when Iger ludicrously overpaid to acquire Fox Studios. That was when the board and the institutional investors had had enough.

    December 4, 2021 at 3:28 am
    • Fozzy Bear Reply

      When you are ready, I would appreciate the Foundation review. I’ve gone from loving the series as a child, to realizing what a shitty author and person Isaac Asimov was. I was intrigued by the changes to Cleon and whatever they called Daneel/Damerzel this time, but I kept getting lost when the budget veered between epic CGI, to having a dozen Kiwi extras masquerade as an interplanetary invasion force. I also found myself having to keep skipping back three episodes to catch up on what I had forgotten.

      December 5, 2021 at 2:47 am
  • Wazdaka Reply

    Interesting video on the failure of the Narnia series
    Disney failed to plan it and stumbled after a good start
    Very similar to Rouge 1, then fail
    https://youtu.be/gGTGRANjy6I

    December 4, 2021 at 5:53 am
    • EXALT Reply

      Very interesting video: basically, Narnia failed as a movie franchise because it’s not a Lord of the Rings rip-off (let alone a Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings rip-off), and you can’t make it such.
      Can you imagine having to explain to your average Hollywood guy that The Last Battle is just a bunch of people being thrown into a stable? How utterly un-epic!

      December 4, 2021 at 7:59 am
    • Skyler the Weird Reply

      Maybe Disney discovered who Ask an really is and didn’t want to continue.

      December 4, 2021 at 6:12 pm
      • EXALT Reply

        To be fair, as far as I know and remember the movies didn’t really cut the Christian stuff – at least, not the major points: Aslan’s death and resurrection is there and pretty much identical to the book, and Dawn Treader even kept the line “In your world I am known by a different name”.
        Not sure who we should thank for that… perhaps Lewis’ stepson, Douglas Gresham?

        December 4, 2021 at 8:29 pm
  • EXALT Reply

    What are some prequels that actually work? To remain Narnia-themed, Magician’s Nephew and The Horse and His Boy 100% qualify: why is that? And are there any others?

    December 4, 2021 at 8:05 am
    • The Dark Herald Reply

      There is an important distinction between telling a story the audience wants to be told and telling a story they only THINK they want to be told.
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      In order to make a prequel work, you need a story that is largely devoid of fixed events. The second Star Wars trilogy failed largely because you knew how every story was going to end going in. Padme would die. The Jedi would be exterminated. Obi-Wan would end up on Tatooine and Yoda on Dagobah. Palpatine would be disfigured and Anakin would take a lava bath. The set up for A New Hope had to be shoehorned into existence by the time the credits rolled on the third film.
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      By contrast, the flashback scenes of Vito Corleone in Godfather II worked because there was very little in the way of fixed events already known to the audience.
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      Solo failed because it was nothing but a series of vignettes about how Han acquired his various accouterments.
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      While flawed in execution, Rogue One had the fundamentals of a good story. The only thing you knew for certain going in was that the Rebels would get the plans to the Deathstar. The fate of the team that did the work was unknown.
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      This is why Andor is going to fail.

      December 4, 2021 at 12:59 pm
      • WOPR Reply

        Solo could have worked had they gone a slightly different direction. Obviously the risk couldn’t be that he would die. So, you have a heist film where the risk is he ends up going to the spice mines. Who knows if he was ever sent there? (It might be in the books, but we’re talking general movie audience knowledge.) There are no call backs to things we know will happen, his gun, his ship, Chewie. Anyways, they pull off the heist after many close calls. However, Harrelson’s* character betrays him and stiffs him on the money. He only leaves him a handful of credits. He’s bitter and jaded by the event. The film ends with him walking into a gambling room with Lando sitting at the table and Chewie in the background.

        * I would have Harrelson’s character shoot someone before being shot at. Make him say something about waiting to get shot at is stupid.

        December 4, 2021 at 1:48 pm
      • EXALT Reply

        Interesting… so ironically, the better prequels are the ones that keep some distance from the original material? The Narnia prequels do fit with that, and so does the Silmarillion (which is not a prequel, but it was published as one). This also means that Captain Marvel might have worked, since it was mostly separated from the MCU’s present-day events: now that’s a sobering thought.
        Thanks for the answer.

        December 4, 2021 at 1:54 pm
    • Seeker Reply

      Offhand:
      The Horatio Hornblower Series (the original is chronologically the 6th novel)
      Gods and Generals
      The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
      Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
      Deus Ex Human Revolution
      Halo Reach (Novel)
      The Hobbit

      December 4, 2021 at 1:59 pm
      • LanaRhodes Reply

        RE: The Horatio Hornblower Series (the original is chronologically the 6th novel)

        I read the series based on chronology and I’m glad I did as I didn’t find Capt. Hornblower that compelling in the original debut novel and actually felt that his actions and thoughts in book 6 were occasionally inconsistent with his development arc in the first 5 books. But that is a minor quibble for a fine series. I learned a lot about the harshness of a wind powered naval life and enjoyed it immensely.

        December 4, 2021 at 2:36 pm
      • EXALT Reply

        Thanks for the answer, although I have to note that The Hobbit is not a prequel – it was published in 1937, The Lord of the Rings in 1954-55.
        Temple of Doom is an odd duck as a prequel: it’s just another Indy adventure, but one that happens to be set before Raiders of the Lost Ark, for some reason; despite that, watching them in release or chronological order doesn’t really change anything – heck, you could watch ToD after Last Crusade and it wouldn’t change anything anyway.

        December 4, 2021 at 2:42 pm
      • Vik Parmar Reply

        Indians eating monkey heads in the temple of Doom was not very Epic in my opinion

        December 4, 2021 at 6:05 pm
    • furor kek tonicus ( Joe Biden identified WITH evil, stupid pedophiles because Joe Biden identifies AS an evil, stupid pedophile ) Reply

      The Dark Herald Reply
      Solo failed because it was nothing but a series of vignettes about how Han acquired his various accouterments.

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      and also making pretensions that they were going to do stupid shit like kill Chewie.

      December 5, 2021 at 12:45 am
    • Elaine T Reply

      in gaming: Crisis Core, FF VII.

      provides a lot of previously unknown background for the events of the original FFVII game, and is still excellent, and heartbreaking.

      December 6, 2021 at 5:11 pm
  • Talos Valcoran Reply

    I had no idea the Narnia Chronicles were Disney – the way that did the White Witch in Prince Caspian convinced me to not even watch Dawn Treader, because I knew they would screw up the ending. Thank goodness they never got their mitts on the Silver Chair.

    December 4, 2021 at 3:04 pm
  • Eli Reply

    So, apparently there is talk that Favreau and Filoni are going to be making Star Wars movies now instead of just TV/Streaming shows. https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/12/02/jon-favreau-and-dave-filoni-rumored-to-be-in-talks-to-lead-star-wars-movies/

    Curious what you all think.

    December 4, 2021 at 5:36 pm
    • The Dark Herald Reply

      It’s a pretty official unofficial leak.
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      Chapek uses the trade media (Variety, Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, (etc)), to make official statements. “Here is the new release schedule for next year,” that kind of thing. All the studio CEOs do that.
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      However, Chapek has introduced a new wrinkle. Using the likes of Doomcock, Midnight’s Edge, Kamran Pasha, and Grace Randolph as his own personal pipeline to get the information out that he wants to be distributed.
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      I am willing to bet that Chapek was pissed as hell that Kennedy leaked that her contract had been renewed when he wanted that kept a deep, dark secret. And this was a counter leak to dampen the fan outrage.
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      According to an anonymous email that I got a while back, Lucas put a poison pill clause in the contract when he sold LucasFilm to Disney. That Kathleen Kennedy would always have the right of first refusal when her contract came up for renewal. Something that clearly blew up in George’s face big time.

      December 4, 2021 at 8:30 pm
    • EXALT Reply

      I hope you all like mediocrity, Marvel-style cameos and Ahsoka Tano.

      December 4, 2021 at 8:31 pm
  • furor kek tonicus ( Joe Biden identified WITH evil, stupid pedophiles because Joe Biden identifies AS an evil, stupid pedophile ) Reply

    Dolph Lundgren joins Clooney in accusing Baldwin of gross incompetence.

    December 5, 2021 at 12:47 am
    • Wazdaka Reply

      With the evidence thats available, I would charge with either murder or manslaughter (British Law). 100% would get the manslaughter; murder requires mens rea which is a pain to prove
      Not sure what degree of murder would apply under American law

      December 5, 2021 at 8:16 am
      • The Dark Herald Reply

        Involuntary Manslaughter due to a Deliberate Negligent Act.
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        Effectively, his situation is no different from someone who is saying, “I swear, I thought the gun was unloaded.”
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        This is why he is now claiming the gun just fired itself without his finger on the trigger at all.

        December 5, 2021 at 7:25 pm
        • Chris Lopes Reply

          Not just “effectively”, as that was exactly what he was saying just after the incident. His lawyers are now trying to bend reality to make prosecution (already unlikely, given who he is) more difficult. They may well succeed, but at the cost of making a wrongful death suit easier to pursue.

          December 5, 2021 at 11:53 pm
  • Skyler the Weird Reply

    Been watching The Wheel of Time on Amazon. It seemed a lot more interesting than what I remember from slogging thru the book so I’ve begun to reread the book and it is still the Arduous chore it was 15 years ago. They’ve cut quite a bit to get the story moving for the series but something is telling me that The Dragon Reborn will not be the character it is in the Book but will be one of the two Bene Gesserit ….I mean Aes Sedai wannabes the two Waymen with never before seen links to the Force…I mean The One Power.

    December 5, 2021 at 6:20 pm

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